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Memo: Attraction =/= Behaviour

So here’s the facts:

52% of AVENites polled said that we should change the definition of asexuality to ‘does not experience sexual attraction and/or has no desire for partnered sex’.
In another poll, 47% of AVENites said the definition should be ’does not experience sexual attraction and/or has no desire for partnered sex’, while 49% preferred the old definition.
 In a third poll, there was a 50/50 split between those who don’t mind and those who disagree with changing the definition to ‘the lack of an inherent inclination to engage in sexual relations’.

 The third thread is particularly interesting- ‘rewording the definition of asexuality to increase clarity.’ It’s a wonderful euphemism- minor policy change, got to consider the PR angle…

More at the link.

SlightlyMetaphysical, who is the author of this piece, and I were discussing this yesterday: if this definition change does happen on AVEN, what does that mean for visibility efforts off-site? This is a definition that both of us think is potentially alienating for a lot of the community, and both of us have serious concerns about seeing it become more common (as opposed to the current definition). For one thing, it alienates definitions of asexuality from definitions of other sexual orientations, and for another thing it is less clear to me than the current most common definition.

If it was simply a matter of AVEN’s forums, I’d say to hell with it, but AVEN does continue to do a lot of visibility and outsourcing work. SlightlyMetaphysical suggests another static resource containing community organization information but not a forum, possibly something along the lines of what the excellent Asexuality Archive has produced, if this definition change goes through for AVEN’s static material and visibility work as well as its forums. Honestly, I don’t have the resources to do that right now—I’m posting this largely because he doesn’t have a tumblr account. I do share a lot of his worries about this definition change if it spreads beyond AVEN’s forums.

Thoughts? Comments? 

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  1. qualityvanillaabsolute reblogged this from codeman38 and added:
    I agree with you on the whole “attraction is to an object as desire is to an action performed on it” thing. To me, the...
  2. morethanx reblogged this from writingfromfactorx and added:
    I’m just confused as to why it even came up. I can understand that if you don’t experience something, and you spend a...
  3. godlessace reblogged this from writingfromfactorx and added:
    Reblogging this to bring attention to my new 200-level blog proposal.
  4. raumlet reblogged this from greenchestnuts and added:
    I’d be willing to try and at least keep a presence on GroupX again. I’d have to put it in my home pages, though, I just...
  5. apolloandellipses reblogged this from writingfromfactorx and added:
    I had this thought myself when they were making the definition needlessly complicated. However I never said anything...
  6. ilikesallydonovan reblogged this from captainheartless and added:
    That’s probably something for the worst-case scenario: Going by “I don’t experience sexual attraction” (with a little...
  7. logical-illogics reblogged this from writingfromfactorx and added:
    I also don’t like the alternative definition, mostly because it excludes people who would have sex for external reasons...
  8. redbeardace reblogged this from writingfromfactorx and added:
    You know, Carnival of Aces would actually be a pretty good thing to build on. Someone can take the concept and give it a...
  9. greenchestnuts reblogged this from writingfromfactorx and added:
    GroupX on Dreamwidth also tried to be a non-AVEN discussion space for aces, and kind of petered out. If we could get...
  10. writingfromfactorx reblogged this from redbeardace and added:
    This is a really good point and an awesome answer! And, I think, is what SlightlyMetaphysical was trying to say—not so...
  11. hawkelf reblogged this from lizziegoneastray and added:
    I’m just taking a quick break from my family to read this, so I’m exhausted and not necessarily putting a lot of thought...
  12. odannygirl7 reblogged this from captainheartless and added:
    This. I think if there was a definition change then I’d be out. I went with asexual because there’s a thing towards...
  13. codeman38 reblogged this from qualityvanillaabsolute and added:
    I interpreted it similarly to what you (qualityvanillaabsolute) said, so at least you’re not alone here. It feels to me...
  14. hrathe3rd reblogged this from captainjerkway and added:
    If this goes down I might as well kick myself out of the asexual community now. I’ve never been sexually attracted to...
  15. lizziegoneastray reblogged this from captainheartless and added:
    Yeah, I am also not psyched about this idea. What, exactly, is wrong with the definition we have now?
  16. kingedmundsroyalmurder reblogged this from writingfromfactorx and added:
    I really hope this doesn’t become the more accepted definition. Especially here on tumblr, we spend so much of our time...
  17. captainheartless reblogged this from writingfromfactorx and added:
    After reading that post I’ve started to wonder how much I benefit from actually identifying as asexual (as opposed to...
  18. calidork reblogged this from writingfromfactorx
  19. voltafiish reblogged this from captainjerkway and added:
    The funny part is that there where a bunch of consexual/allosexual people in those forum topics telling aces what their...
  20. captainjerkway reblogged this from writingfromfactorx and added:
    My thoughts run sort of like this: WHY THE FUCK DOES AVEN HAVE TO RUIN EVERYTHING? AVEN IS WHY WE CAN’T HAVE NICE...
  21. writingfromfactorx posted this